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(notes on the Germanness of the name and one other source, but mysteries grow)
(once again hit in the back by the door (or Daugherty's Directory) on the esprit d'escalier, sorry. But Google is also at fault)
 
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'''Karl Edward Först von Lutz''' was a [[fan]] in Beverly Hills in the late 1930s. He was a member of the [[UK]]'s [[Science Fiction Association]] (SFA), joining in July 1937 with most other [[Los Angeles]] fans, and [[LASFL]], likely from a similar or earlier date.  
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'''Karl Edward Först von Lutz''' was a [[fan]] in Beverly Hills in the late 1930s and, possibly, early 1940s. He joined the [[UK]]'s [[Science Fiction Association]] (SFA) in July 1937 with many other [[Los Angeles]] fans, and was a member (or was he really, or just a visitor?!) of [[LASFL]], likely from a similar or earlier date.
  
[[T. Bruce Yerke]] in ''[[Memoirs of a Superfluous Fan]]'' (1944) wrote that "the minutes for the meeting of August 19, 1937" include von Lutz "and wife" but Yerke says no more about him.  His (and [[Bruce Pelz]]'s) 1992 edition transcribes out the umlaut as '''Karl Edward Foerst von Lutz''', likely because it was not readily available in their word processor / DTP. Strangely, a reissue of ''Memoirs'' in ''[[Shangri-LA]]'' 12 (Commemorative Reprint Issue, June 1949), shortened the name (or left out the title) to "Karl Edwars [sic] von Lutz".
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[[T. Bruce Yerke]] in ''[[Memoirs of a Superfluous Fan]]'' (1944) wrote "the minutes for the meeting of August 19, 1937" include von Lutz "and wife" but no more.  His (and [[Bruce Pelz]]'s) 1992 edition transcribes out the umlaut as '''Karl Edward Foerst von Lutz''', likely because it was not readily available in their word processor / DTP. Strangely, a reissue of ''Memoirs'' in ''[[Shangri-LA]]'' 12 (Commemorative Reprint Issue, June 1949) shortened the name (or left out the title, see below) to "Karl Edwars [''sic''] von Lutz".
  
In "Fancestral memories", ''[[Shangri-LA]]'' 18 (Feb. 1950), [[Forry Ackerman]] waxed:
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In "Fancestral memories", ''[[Shangri-LA]]'' 18 (Feb. 1950), [[Forry Ackerman]] waxed nostalgic:
  
 
  And tales to be told of [[Paul Freehafer]], and the club’s first feminine director, [[Helen Finn]], and '''Baron Karl Edward Forst von Lütz''', and [[Franklyn Brady]], and [[Jimmy Kepner]], and [[Mel Brown]]... oh, on and on.
 
  And tales to be told of [[Paul Freehafer]], and the club’s first feminine director, [[Helen Finn]], and '''Baron Karl Edward Forst von Lütz''', and [[Franklyn Brady]], and [[Jimmy Kepner]], and [[Mel Brown]]... oh, on and on.
  
The umlaut was clearly misplaced, but sadly not a single such tale seems to have been told anywhere (Finn is another member mysteriously neglected in contemporary materials, let alone memoirs). Still, this would suggest ''some'' level of [[fanac]] beyond a single attendance and formal admission. The same form, now without any umlaut whatsoever (but it could easily get lost in transcription online) appears in Forry's listing of people he had known made "circa 2001".<ref>[[Joe Moe]], http://gojoemoe.blogspot.com/2010/02/forrys-list-part-2.html ; explanation of context is in the (circa 2001)</ref> Alas, even the catalogue of Ackerman Papers at the University of Syracuse does not include any Lutz in correspondence etc.<ref> https://library.syracuse.edu/digital/guides/a/ackerman_fj.htm</ref>
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The umlaut was clearly misplaced, but sadly not a single such tale seems to have been told anywhere (Finn is another member mysteriously neglected in contemporary materials, let alone memoirs). Still, this would suggest ''some'' level of [[fanac]] beyond a single attendance and formal admission. The same form of the name, now without any umlaut whatsoever (but it could easily get lost in transcription online) appears in Forry's listing of people he had known made "circa 2001".<ref>[[Joe Moe]], http://gojoemoe.blogspot.com/2010/02/forrys-list-part-2.html ; explanation of context is in the beginning of the first part, linked.</ref> Alas, even the catalogue of Ackerman Papers at the University of Syracuse does not include any Lutz in correspondence etc.<ref> https://library.syracuse.edu/digital/guides/a/ackerman_fj.htm</ref>
  
The name looks decidedly [[German]], so [[we]] are tempted to speculate if it can't somehow be a misspelling of [[wikipedia:Fürst]], i. e. nobility title of a Prince, commonly given thus as a kind of middle name before the "of" domicile. However there are no traces (discovered yet) of anybody named/titled even similarly, either in Europe or America. (Also, there is no place called Lutz in German-speaking countries, though there is a village of [[wikipedia:Lütz]]; but this does not need to mean anything, there definitely was a line of von Lutzes, though the proper title apparently was ''Freiherr''.) – But then our man might well have been in the US for a short time, and left again after or before the [[War]] started, so would not be captured by census-based materials. It remains to check phone directories.
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''[[Walt Daugherty's Directory of Fandom]]'' (1st ed, April 1942) has "von Lutz, Baron Karl" (between Vogonitz and Wagner) at 227 Peck Drive, Beverly Hills, Calif. He is absent in the 1944(/3?) second ed.; and now guess: Did he go [[gafia]] in the intervening time? Or was even the first edition obsolete when it apperared?
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The name looks decidedly [[German]], so [[we]] (who of course know the language and culture) are tempted to speculate if it can't somehow be a misspelling of [[wikipedia:Fürst]], i. e. nobility title of a Prince, commonly given thus as a kind of middle name before the "of" domicile. However there are no traces (discovered yet) of anybody named/titled even similarly, either in Europe or America. (Also, there is no place called Lutz in German-speaking countries, though there is a village of [[wikipedia:Lütz]]; but this does not need to mean anything, there definitely was a line of von Lutzes, though the proper title seems to be ''Freiherr''.) – How long he had been in the US, and whether he left US around the start of the [[War]], still remains to be located in census-based materials and phone directories.
  
 
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Latest revision as of 14:18, 29 August 2024

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Karl Edward Först von Lutz was a fan in Beverly Hills in the late 1930s and, possibly, early 1940s. He joined the UK's Science Fiction Association (SFA) in July 1937 with many other Los Angeles fans, and was a member (or was he really, or just a visitor?!) of LASFL, likely from a similar or earlier date.

T. Bruce Yerke in Memoirs of a Superfluous Fan (1944) wrote "the minutes for the meeting of August 19, 1937" include von Lutz "and wife" but no more. His (and Bruce Pelz's) 1992 edition transcribes out the umlaut as Karl Edward Foerst von Lutz, likely because it was not readily available in their word processor / DTP. Strangely, a reissue of Memoirs in Shangri-LA 12 (Commemorative Reprint Issue, June 1949) shortened the name (or left out the title, see below) to "Karl Edwars [sic] von Lutz".

In "Fancestral memories", Shangri-LA 18 (Feb. 1950), Forry Ackerman waxed nostalgic:

And tales to be told of Paul Freehafer, and the club’s first feminine director, Helen Finn, and Baron Karl Edward Forst von Lütz, and Franklyn Brady, and Jimmy Kepner, and Mel Brown... oh, on and on.

The umlaut was clearly misplaced, but sadly not a single such tale seems to have been told anywhere (Finn is another member mysteriously neglected in contemporary materials, let alone memoirs). Still, this would suggest some level of fanac beyond a single attendance and formal admission. The same form of the name, now without any umlaut whatsoever (but it could easily get lost in transcription online) appears in Forry's listing of people he had known made "circa 2001".[1] Alas, even the catalogue of Ackerman Papers at the University of Syracuse does not include any Lutz in correspondence etc.[2]

Walt Daugherty's Directory of Fandom (1st ed, April 1942) has "von Lutz, Baron Karl" (between Vogonitz and Wagner) at 227 Peck Drive, Beverly Hills, Calif. He is absent in the 1944(/3?) second ed.; and now guess: Did he go gafia in the intervening time? Or was even the first edition obsolete when it apperared?

The name looks decidedly German, so we (who of course know the language and culture) are tempted to speculate if it can't somehow be a misspelling of wikipedia:Fürst, i. e. nobility title of a Prince, commonly given thus as a kind of middle name before the "of" domicile. However there are no traces (discovered yet) of anybody named/titled even similarly, either in Europe or America. (Also, there is no place called Lutz in German-speaking countries, though there is a village of wikipedia:Lütz; but this does not need to mean anything, there definitely was a line of von Lutzes, though the proper title seems to be Freiherr.) – How long he had been in the US, and whether he left US around the start of the War, still remains to be located in census-based materials and phone directories.


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