Talk:Standards

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Boldfacing full names?

The standards say "boldface names used in fandom" (and thanks for the reminder, Leah!); it occurs to me that I've also been boldfacing full names, as in Eleanor Eva “Ellie” Turner and Israel Ken Krenzel. What would be the best way to style those names—boldfaced as they currently are, or something else?

1. Eleanor Eva “Ellie” Turner (née Joiner, later Thompson)
2. Eleanor Eva “Ellie” Turner (née Joiner, later Thompson)
3. Ellie Turner (née Eleanor Eva Joiner, later Thompson)

For people whose surnames didn't change, it also seems odd to use ‘né(e)’, so there's another option here:

1. Israel Ken Krenzel
2. Israel Ken Krenzel
3. Israel Krenzel (né Israel Ken Krenzel)
4. Israel Krenzel (Israel Ken Krenzel)

And I suppose when we write about nonbinary fans who changed their surname, we'd say ‘born’ instead of ‘né(e)’, ne?

— Bee Ostrowsky (talk) 08:14, 6 May 2023 (PDT)

It’s kind of a judgment call. I tend to boldface full names when they lead the article, even if the fans didn’t use that form of their names fannishly, and also the real names of authors who are better known by pen names. We boldface all the pen names.

I’d go with #1 or #3 in both your examples. I think it looks weird to boldface part of someone’s name.

But for Mary Jo Fann, who came into fandom as Mary Josephine Neo, changed her name to M. J. Phan, then gafiated before remarrying and taking the surname of John Q. Mundane, and then writing nonfiction as M. J. M. Pseudonym, only the first three names would be in bold. However, if M. J. M. Pseudonym became a famous science writer and was a science goh at a lot of cons, we might boldface that name, too. (Even tho Famous Scientist NotaFan would not get a profile here at all.) It’s sort of about what names are people going to come here looking for. (Mark only boldfaces when there are redirects.)

French vs. English for “born” is a matter of preference. “Originally” is an option, too.

—Leah Zeldes Smith (talk) 09:10, 6 May 2023 (PDT)

FWIW (hardly even 2 cents), I also think that switching boldface on and off in one name as per 2 looks too weird. We are sufficiently used to 1 from Wikipedia etc., and usually able to gather the "working name" (as SFE calls it) from the page name, context etc., although often separating the two forms fully, roughly as per 3, would be useful. --JVjr (talk) 14:43, 6 May 2023 (PDT)